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Sunday Musings: The Empathy Gap

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Recently, I’ve thought a great deal about one thing. Empathy.

Why? Well, the United States, as a country, don’t seem to be showing a lot of it lately.

Whether it’s because of how individuals have handled Covid-19, or because of the ascension of politicians with more mouth than brain (including current US Reps Marjorie Taylor Greene and Nicole Boebert), it seems trendy now to behave badly and blame it on someone else.

I read a lengthy article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel recently about this very thing. (I am not linking to it because it was for “subscribers only,” meaning unless you have a subscription, they won’t let you see it.) It talked about the differences between what good, empathetic behavior is and bad behavior, and discussed how two decades — the 1970s, or “Me Decade,” and the 1980s, or the “Greed is Good” Decade — have changed public discourse for the worse.

I’m not sure it was just because of those two decades, mind you. But it is possible that folks who were born in those decades changed their parenting style, and their kids grew up with fewer “guard rails” against bad behavior along with perhaps lesser consequences for said bad behavior.

I think most of us have seen someone treated badly because of Covid-19. Whether it’s a customer cussing out a store employee for wearing a mask (as they mostly have had to do due to local or state regulations), someone being happy that another person who’s died because they didn’t get the vaccine and felt they wouldn’t get sick (schadenfreude, in other words), or a store employee (in a state/county that does not require masks) ask someone to remove their mask because said store employee didn’t like it, there seems to be very little tolerance for any behavior besides one’s own.

I have a very good friend who went to the post office recently where she lives. The clerk there is an anti-masker and possibly also an anti-vaxxer and complained when my friend (who is immunocompromised) did not remove her mask after she was asked. She explained this, but the clerk did not care. It was all she could do to stay in the post office until her business was done due to being so upset.

I have another friend who lives in Florida. He is also immunocompromised, but his doctors believe he should not be vaccinated. (I’m not sure why.) He has kept himself from just about everyone now for almost three years. It’s been a tough life, as he is gregarious and loves to talk with people about just about anything. But he’s risking his life with or without a mask, and as he lives in Florida — where people have disdained wearing masks even at the worst of the Covid-19 breakout stages — he sees no other way but to stay home, live quietly, and hope Covid goes away.

Other than the nurse who comes in to give him treatments, he sees no one. He hears many, mind, as there are people roundly cursing each other out at his apartment complex at all hours. (That we’re all under much more stress due to Covid is a given, granted.) But he sees no one.

There hasn’t been anyone to bring him food, or talk to him outside (making sure there’s no one around at the time so it’ll be safe for him, with a mask if he wants one, to do that), or do any of the small, kind human gestures that show empathy for someone who’s suffering, much less through no fault of his own.

(He lives too far away for me to help, or I’d have already visited. But I digress.)

I could give more examples, but I’ll stop there because I think my point’s been made.

You, as an individual person, should be free to lead your life any way you see fit. But you also should not be rude to someone who needs a mask even if mask mandates have been relaxed; you should not be rude to someone because her autistic son cannot wear a mask; you should not be rude to someone, like me, who has asthma and has great difficulty and distress wearing a mask but tries anyway because of two parents “of a certain age.” You also should not be so rude as to say, “I’m glad he’s dead” when you hear of a prominent anti-vaxxer dying due to Covid.

Why has it become so controversial to say these things, anyway? (To say what I just said, mind. Not to be outright rude, which seems perfectly fine to many for reasons I just don’t understand.) Why must empathy now be politicized, as if it’s something bad to actually care about others?

What I want this Sunday — not to mention every single day of my life — is for everyone to take a moment and step back. Realize that we are all human. We are all deserving of care, empathy, trust, and love. And we should start to show the best of ourselves to others, quietly, not as an Instragrammable moment but because our shared humanity deserves that.

If we can do that, the world will become a much better place.

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  1. “Lack of Empathy” is the Hallmark of too many on the Left.

    Sorry Barb, I can’t “like” this post because (as always) you ignore the problem people on your side.

    • Paul, how did I ignore anything? I said people should not be happy over anyone dying. That is something I’ve seen not just from left-leaning sorts in the US, but from centrists! I don’t get that.

      The overall lack of empathy is a problem for everyone, Paul. And I wish we didn’t have it, because it shows just how hard it is for us to agree on anything (generic you as well as specific you).

      What have you seen that lacks empathy from left-leaning and centrists where you live? I want to know, because I agree that overall — with every single person, of whatever political stripe — we have a pronounced empathy gap.

      Hell, this country can’t even agree that abducting a sitting governor is bad! (I couldn’t stand my governor, but I never would’ve cottoned to anyone doing that! You do what is legal. Ethical. Moral. And kidnapping is none of those things.)

      I mention the last because the plotters trying — and fortunately, failing — to kidnap sitting Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer ended up not getting convicted. Two were acquitted, and the other two have to be retried due to a hung jury.

      So, I want to know, Paul. What have people done where you are that is upsetting you? Because I’ll be happy to mention it in a follow-up post. (You certainly can mention hypocrisy, too. I’ve seen a ton of that, including the politicians at the Gridiron dinner recently who ended up with Covid.)

      Barb Caffrey

      April 10, 2022 at 5:08 pm

      • When you mention Two Republican Politicians as having “more mouth than brains” but fail to mention all of the Democrats who are also “more mouth than brains (especially when said Democrats spread hatred), then it pisses me off.

        Not to mention the Mask garbage. There’s plenty of evidence that those masks Do Nothing to prevent the spread of the China Bug.

        And yes, there’s plenty of hypocrisy from Democratic Politicians on the China Bug stuff.

        And right now, I’m annoyed at the problems caused by our current President and our current Congress that the White House (and news media) is trying to blame on Putin.

        Empathy?

        I find it extremely hard to feel empathy toward Liberals in general.

        Especially after all the Hate spread by them.

      • There are plenty of politicians with more mouth than brain out there. But the reason I mentioned those two is because they seem to be the worst of the worst. They don’t seem to be doing anything except run their mouths off.

        I don’t particularly like AOC, mind, but at least she goes and reads about the issues. She isn’t just saying, “They’re bad. ‘Cause.” Whereas I have the feeling Boebert and Greene do exactly that.

        Now, who is spreading hatred?

        Biden is finding it much tougher to govern than he did to campaign (and he wasn’t great at campaigning; due to Covid, he didn’t have to campaign as much, and that, along with some missteps by Trump in his second debate performance, was possibly how he managed to get in there).

        Yes, I’ve seen some rampant hypocrisy in how Covid is treated by folks on the left as well as some on the right. Politicians have insisted “we wore masks” on the left when they did no such thing. It’s all “do as I say, not as I do,” and I can’t abide that.

        Anyway, what is Biden and the current crop of folks in the Senate and House trying to blame on Putin that Putin hasn’t actually done?

        And please see my point again, Paul, about how we’re all human. We are worthy of empathy. Many of the politicians in this country, not just Greene and Boebert, have seemingly lost that. We, as human beings who aren’t politicians, had best not follow in their footsteps if we can help it.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 10, 2022 at 5:43 pm

      • Perhaps, it would be better for you to practice “what you preach”.

        Sorry but you’ve shown little understand of the “other side” let alone “showing empathy”.

        And preaching Hatred is the Liberal Way and “disagreeing with the Liberals” is defined as Hatred by the Left.

        So “claims” that we’re spreading Hatred are meaningless to me.

      • But I didn’t say you or anyone was spreading hatred, Paul. I said Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert seem to let their mouths run without letting their brains engage first. That is the truth, even though it’s not one I particularly like.

        I wish all of our US Reps and Senators would spend more time looking at whatever the facts are than blaming each other for every little thing. We have a broken system, Paul, and we have a broken electorate that now doesn’t seem to even be able to say to each other, “Hey, I care. You don’t have to believe everything I do down to the last jot and tittle for me to care, either. We’re all human.”

        I don’t understand what you’re talking about regarding “preaching Hatred is the Liberal Way.” Can you give me some examples?

        I do not — absolutely DO NOT — believe that everyone on the right preaches hatred. The implication that everyone on any given side behaves in lockstep is flat-out wrong.

        I know there are good people out there with various views on things. We are not sheeple. We are human beings.

        I talk about these things because I want to know what it is that’s being discussed, in part. I also want to try to bridge the empathy gap if I can, because I’m a human being and because I really can’t stand it that we can’t even talk to one another anymore unless we all seemingly agree with whatever the “Talking points” of the day are.

        I am not anywhere near “liberal enough” for most of the folks in the Democratic Party, Paul, because I do try to find consensus and I do try to ask why someone is upset, and find out what their reasons are.

        Again, what, specifically, are you upset about?

        If you have disliked something AOC said that’s specific, name it. Or Rep. Rashida Tlaib. Or Rep. Ilham Omar. Those three have often made headlines because of their stances on various things. (AOC is high on green energy, which makes sense from where she lives as she’s lived through NYC brownouts and such. It doesn’t make much sense in the heartland of the country, however. Tlaib and Omar have occasionally said such outrageous things that they’ve been mocked repeatedly by comedians.

        Again, Paul, what in specific has you up in arms?

        I have to admit I don’t know everything, much less with regards to all of the four-hundred-plus US Reps. I tend to know what’s going on with my own Rep, maybe with most of the other Reps in WI, and I keep an eye on whatever Speaker Pelosi has said/done, too. Beyond that, most of the Reps haven’t made much of an impression on me, so it’s possible I have missed something that scans as utter rudeness along with intolerance and hatred (as that’s the word you used).

        Tell me what it is, and I’ll look it up.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 10, 2022 at 6:00 pm

  2. BTW, I can’t stand masks myself. I don’t know what good they do unless someone’s already sick. It keeps other people from getting sick from you if you are ill. They’ve done that with flu victims for years and no one had a problem with it.

    That said, the whole thought behind masks was, “I will wear one for you if you will wear one for me.” We started out the whole Covid crisis without any way to fight it. No vaccines. No treatments. No nothing.

    Yes, call it whatever you like, but it’s a problem regardless if you call it Covid-19 or the “China virus.” It’s killed people. It killed Herman Cain, for example. It killed Colin Powell, too.

    And yes, I suppose you could say that both were over 70 and both were already not in the peak of health. That’s true. Still, Covid took them out and was the final nail in the coffin, so to speak, for both men.

    There have been young, athletic people who have died from Covid. There also have been folks who’ve gotten a form of Covid called “long Covid” where symptoms continue for months if not years. No one knows if there will be any treatments for those folks, either, as of yet.

    You don’t have to believe in an illness to get it. (That’s not how illness works.)

    Right now, the country is about 2/3 vaccinated the last I saw. That hopefully should be enough for “herd immunity” and I also hope it’ll mean we’ll have fewer senseless and unnecessary deaths. It also means most people shouldn’t have to wear masks anymore, which is the best news of all besides preventing the unnecessary and senseless deaths I’ve already discussed.

    You may also wonder why I often mask up even when I dislike them and don’t know what good they do unless someone’s already sick. It’s because of my parents. I do not want to bring them something that will kill them if I can help it. And I don’t care how long their lives have been or what their health status may be…I just know that if it helps in the slightest way to keep me healthier so I won’t perhaps bring them Covid, I will do that.

    I do it for them. Definitely not for me.

    Barb Caffrey

    April 10, 2022 at 5:51 pm

    • At this point my biggest hope is that these mRNA therapies aren’t actually as harmful as the actual science is suggesting. If it is, we’ll see generations of people who will be anti science/medicine all because a bunch of politicians/bureaucrats/medical professionals decided that money and some short term notoriety were more important than professionalism and character.

      kamas716

      April 10, 2022 at 7:58 pm

      • I hope they aren’t, too, Kamas.

        The only thing I do know about why we got vaccines so quickly is that Covid is similar to another SARS-Covid-2 or something like that. That particular disease did not spread rapidly like this one, but it had similar hallmarks. I think the vaccine for that was adapted, and it was gotten out onto the streets.

        I don’t know if any doctors — the ones I’ve known — would want to give any therapy if they did not think it was safe. I have gotten frustrated with many “celebrity doctors” including Dr. Oz and on occasion Dr. Fauci (though I think Dr. Fauci means well, sometimes his explanations of things seem Byzantine. Or maybe that’s just me.)

        My doctors all told me that under the circumstances, I was much better off with the vaccine than without it. I did worry that I’d be allergic to the vax, because I have some esoteric allergies. Fortunately, I wasn’t allergic and have had the vaxes my doctors deemed necessary.

        All of this is terra incognita, though. You’re right about that.

        Anyway, I would like to know what science is suggesting with regards to mRNA vaccines, if you have a link. I can’t seem to find much other than the usual: it works, it has side effects, but it’s better than the alternative of getting a bad case of Covid.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 11, 2022 at 2:14 am

      • Thanks, Kamas. I’ll check it out.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 11, 2022 at 5:39 pm

      • the relevant part starts about 5 minutes in

        kamas716

        April 11, 2022 at 6:10 pm

      • I will take a look, Kamas. Promise.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 11, 2022 at 8:34 pm

  3. This “lack of empathy” isn’t new, it’s been around for decades. A couple of years ago Maxine Waters was telling people to get up in people’s faces. Or you might perhaps Pelosi wondering why there weren’t rioters in the streets over immigration policies. Perhaps “deplorable” might ring a bell?

    And the media is complicit, how many people have been called “nazis” or “literally Hitler”? How many times have the media knowledge lied to us about events because they found one of parties involved not to their liking? It has been going on at least since the 80s, it’s just much more out in the open. You can see it in TV shows as well.

    Given that such behavior has become so prevalent it’s no wonder that people on the street are behaving similarly

    kamas716

    April 10, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    • You’re right, Kamas. You’re right about all of that.

      I liked Hillary and voted for her. I think she was frustrated at something she’d seen and used words that were not appropriate when she said “the basket of deplorables.” (To be fair to her, she said “some” of Trump’s supporters were; not all.) I think it’s too tough to campaign for any given human being in a normal campaign without Covid-19. Mitt Romney said some silly stuff about how the trees in Michigan were “just the right height,” and going back further than that, John Kerry, when he was running for President, thanked people in Green Bay by saying “Lambert Field” rather than Lambeau Field.

      I think all of these things happen because people get tired. They’re always on the go, and no one — not anyone — can be perfect all the time. It’s impossible.

      For that matter, George W. Bush once said “put food on your family.” Did he mean that? No, of course not. But he was probably extremely tired from all the campaigning.

      If there’s one good thing about 2020’s election, it shows that you do not have to campaign as much as candidates had previously thought. I hope they’ll slow down, because one of these days, someone’s going to have a fatal heart attack while campaigning.

      I have never understood Maxine Waters, Kamas. I don’t think Michael understood her, either. I think she uses a lot of hyperbole, and maybe that works in her district. I wish she wouldn’t do that, though, because you’re absolutely right. That’s part of the lowering of the discourse in this country.

      What I hope we can get back to, somehow, in the US is that we all want the same things, for the most part. We want safe streets, good schools that teach kids how to learn (because lifelong learning is important), and by preference, teach them to question authority. Teach them how to research things, too, while we’re at it. And we want the chance to succeed, too…not that we all can succeed at the same thing, but we should at least believe that good things are obtainable to those who work hard at any given field of endeavor.

      (I almost spelled that last the British way. Oops.)

      As far as rioters in the streets re: immigration policies or any other policies…I am for safe, legal assemblies. Not riots. (You may recall my several posts over the past few years on these topics.)

      People have the right to peacefully assemble, wave signs, march, chant (even if it’s rude words, providing they don’t do anything to anyone), all that. I don’t want to get in the way of that.

      What I definitely want, though, is for people to remember that we *are* all human.

      Just because you’re on the right and I’m in the center-left, why does that mean we have to hate each other? (That’s a rhetorical question, BTW.)

      I am well aware that human beings descended from tribes of hunter-gatherers. I know that when cornered, human beings will behave much like any cornered animal. And I also know that putting everyone into one category or another is silly. Childish, even. (When it’s not utterly insane, that is.)

      I don’t know what the answers are, overall. I do know that we have to start talking to each other, listening to each other, and do our best to learn from one another. I think that’s what we were put on this Earth to do.

      Barb Caffrey

      April 11, 2022 at 2:10 am

  4. This is a pertinent post Barb, and probably no coincidence that I have just been visiting the site of a fellow-countryman of yours who was posting up similar concerns.

    With Covid there is an obvious fear-factor of a pandemic involved, which is a deep seated instinctive feeling, some react by denial others by hyper-vigilance; sadly it has become politicised. (And odd facet. Most USA denial is Right / Right of Centre based. In the UK it’s Left / Left of Centre ).

    Since my early teens the USA has always attracted my attention. The resistance to Change / Conservativism has been a factor since the end of WWII and probably did become a nationwide feature from the 1960s; the triggers being many and not necessarily ones which erupted, but grew.
    It’s a bit of an old saw now, but the evidence of watching the USA suggests to me that the involvement in Vietnam was one which left fractures that permeated many debates. Both sides: Conservative / Progressive feeling the other was somehow responsible for the outcome and things needed to be taken in hand. Since then the battle-lines on many issues became entrenched along Conservative / Progressive lines, until a tribalism set in, which has resulted in where the USA is today.

    History of large nations / groups of nations (call the group what you will) suggests that such forces an endemic and a dismantling of the system takes place. Thus it is a possibility the USA could fragment into a collection of separate nation-states, with Washington and The Whitehouse being reduced to a nominal status.
    This may seem an outrageous idea to some Americans, but there is nothing to indicate the USA is a structure which is immune to the forces which move Human activity.

    deteremineddespitewp

    April 11, 2022 at 11:34 am

    • We get half-hearted (and sometimes much more fully hearted) wishes from many for California to secede from the Union. (It’s not going to happen.) And there have been at least three calls in the past few years for counties in various states to secede, or for other activity along those lines. (The first time I saw it, though, was back in 1987 or 1988. There were three counties in Kansas, I think it was, that never had ratified the state constitution. They were all afire for seceding and joining Colorado, the state directly to the west of them. They all were either border counties or close to the border, so this might’ve worked. But the state of Kansas said these counties could not secede, and nothing happened.)

      In my lifetime I’ve seen Czechoslovakia break up into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. I’ve seen Yugoslavia break into its component parts (that was less surprising, as the only reason that was a single country in the first place was due to one autocrat, more or less). And, last but not least, I’ve seen East and West Germany reconcile and become one Germany.

      I don’t know what the answers are, Roger. I just know we have to ask the questions.

      Kamas raised a good point in that there were problems in the 1980s that may have led to this state of affairs in the US. (Before then, too, as you’ve just said and I think Kamas either said outright or alluded to.) And while we had “shock jocks” on the radio (Rush Limbaugh on the right, Howard Stern more or less on the left), we were losing journalistic integrity at the various news sources, as Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc., realized they would make more money by catering to opinion. (Most of the well-known hosts for all of those shows have far more to do with opinion than anything else, though Rachel Maddow goes out of her way to source everything.)

      This does not at all mean there aren’t good hosts at Fox News as well as at CNN and MSNBC. There are. Every one of those channels has at least two or three serious journalists working for them. (Richard Engel is the one who comes to mind at MSNBC. Bret Baier is probably the most likely one to come up if you’re talking about Fox News. And Chris Wallace, now of CNN and CNN-plus, a new streaming service, certainly is as hard news as it gets.)

      But that’s why we have hosts like Tucker Carlson at Fox News, or Sean Hannity (I liked that show a lot more when Alan Colmes took part in the discussions). Ratings drive everything, and that’s why those two shows are in drive-time every weekday.

      (At CNN, while I admired his tough-talking stance, Chris Cuomo might’ve been the most opinionated of the bunch. And again, he had the highest ratings of anyone at CNN.)

      There can still be good news stories broached by any one of these folks, mind you. Just being opinionated is not enough of a reason to stop watching, so long as you are aware of the person’s overall slant and do your own research to decide what you think on it.

      At MSNBC, Nicole Wallace is probably the most opinionated person working today. She’s a former White House press secretary, I think, and she knows her business…that said, she makes it very clear when she’s upset with someone or something.

      Anyway, these folks are all still much better than those working for Newsmax or the now-defunct OAN (One American News network, which my Mom liked calling “O-anon,” because of how much of the Q-anon stuff made its way into their broadcasts). And even there, it’s possible to find nuggets of truths…you just have to know where to look.

      I hope this lengthy answer hasn’t bored you to death. 😉

      Barb Caffrey

      April 11, 2022 at 5:52 pm

      • Not at all Barb. Thanks for the insight into the current folk involved in many ways in the US media.
        It is always a case of ‘Reading the Runes’, unless you have something so blatantly biased it’s not worth your time.
        In the UK, basically only one channel devoted to news BBC News (which would be fine if it didn’t go in for spasms of slo-mo or speeded-up images when an editor feel ‘artistic’). Three other channels have news programmes and commentary / documentary features. Generally though our main network does not have the style displayed by say Fox. There are a few but you have to go crawling around YouTube, or satellite and they are mostly agenda based.
        You will see thriving groups on UK Social media who complain loudly about the BBC being biased which since they are based on either wing of the political divide is all you need to know. A number of my fellow Left wingers wax long about this, but they simply want a BBC which broadcasts their views.

        deteremineddespitewp

        April 12, 2022 at 2:07 am

      • That makes sense, Roger.

        What has caused the sharply partisan divide overall is something political scientists and possibly even anthropologists will have to figure out over time. It didn’t happen overnight, as Kamas pointed out.

        I’ve done a little research here and there regarding newspapers and how they’ve viewed the world. We had very partisan news through most of the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. The 20th century started out like the other three previous centuries, but at some point — possibly because some of the biggest newspapers were called on reporting either fraudulent claims or markedly jumped-up claims — newspapers went to a more balanced approach.

        We also had something called “the fairness doctrine” that applied into the mid-1980s, if I recall correctly. That was intended so people could hear all sides of an issue. Every channel on the radio or TV had to make way for someone to speak on one side or another; they had to be prepared speeches or talking points, but no one was excluded if their points made any sense at all.

        When the fairness doctrine got repealed, we saw every news source — save perhaps newspapers (I’ll get to that in a bit) — go to a more markedly partisan bent. If a slant was already toward the left, it went further left. If it was to the right, it went further right. Centrists started to look at various types of media to get some idea of what was going on, though there were some shows that were known to be less partisan than others (such as Face the Nation, which is a Sunday morning show on CBS that features well-educated commentators discussing whatever happens to be the news of the day).

        Newspapers went in two directions. Some went more partisan, but still had people who were on the other side discussing the issues. (Washington Post is like this. They have Hugh Hewitt as an opinion columnist, as well as a few other well-known conservatives.) Some — this being mostly the local papers — went toward discussing whatever local issues were, and used national media sources for whatever national news they acquired (wire services, in short).

        We need local media badly because without it, we can’t hold anyone accountable for anything. So the local media approach made a good deal of sense, at least until the big conglomerates started buying up the newspapers. Suddenly, the local papers shrank, and less hard news on the local level was able to be reported.

        This is why some of the folks got so angry at the mask mandates, I think. The reasoning for them didn’t filter down as it normally would. And the schools themselves — much less the school boards — didn’t explain it, either. (It’s hard to get a child to mask up. It’s even harder to get that child to keep the mask on. It might even be considered a futile task. Teachers were still told to do it, which probably added greatly to their stress levels.)

        The whole thing about masks…they can only help a little bit, as best I can tell. They mostly help, as we’ve discussed before, if someone is sick but does not know it. That way, the sick person can’t infect anyone with whatever they have. N-95s (or the Korean N-94) will help filter the air and are more breathable than some masks (I say this from experience, as I had a few N-94 masks). If we had a ton of air pollution in this country, I’d advocate for their use on that basis. (Air pollution is a problem in some major cities, granted. But thank goodness it’s not anywhere near as bad as the air pollution seen in China or parts of India.)

        Anyway, this is yet another lengthy answer! 🙂

        Hope your day goes well.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 15, 2022 at 1:38 pm

      • Sorry for the delay in replying Barb, somehow this one was missed.
        It’s interesting you should mention local newspapers because in the UK we experienced a brief rise in their popularity over nationals, roughly about the same time. And then came the internet and the rise of home computers. They are still about but in our area are strictly local issues and news. Thus similar experiences.

        Our national press always has been partisan in one way our another, currently right-wing newspapers are more common. Particularly since Brexit I have to check myself not to ‘profile’ a person on the basis on which newspaper they are reading (they might prefer the gardening or sports sections for all I know).

        In the UK the mask debate has tending to generate most heat through the antics of the Conspiracy groupings. Although some folk seem to be of the ‘I can’t be bothered’ mind-set.

        In my part of Wales (North East) mask wearing is still very common enough though restrictions are being lifted. The has been some discussion over whether they will become part of life now, particularly when an area becomes a Covid Hot-Spot.
        Although there have been some political games played with mask wearing, it has not reached the extent as in some nations.

        deteremineddespitewp

        April 18, 2022 at 12:32 pm

      • I’m glad it’s better over there, Roger.

        Yes, people are people wherever they are, and it seems as a species that we prefer to get into arguments. Maybe that provided some sort of survival edge, way back when. (I’d like to think so, anyway. Being born contrary must benefit someone somewhere, even if I don’t know where that place may be.)

        Barb Caffrey

        April 19, 2022 at 5:00 pm

      • The Good Thing about “Being Contrary” is that you don’t follow the “mob” when they’re “going the wrong way”.

        Of course, the Bad Thing is that they are “going the correct way” and you are going the wrong way.

        Now, knowing the difference takes intelligence. 😉

      • That’s very true, Paul. 🙂

        I just wrote an update to this post, BTW, along with adding in several other things. You may find it of interest, as I discuss Rep. Omar’s odd comment about singing on an airplane.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 19, 2022 at 5:49 pm

      • You’ve written out a good hypothesis there Barb. I would not argue with.
        I can imagine in other posts elsewhere writing ‘A friend of mine on another blog speculated that…..’
        Keep up the good work.

        deteremineddespitewp

        April 20, 2022 at 2:54 am

      • Thanks, Roger. I appreciate that.

        Barb Caffrey

        April 20, 2022 at 3:47 pm

      • 🌼🌻🌷🌺

        deteremineddespitewp

        April 21, 2022 at 2:48 am


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